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The Fearless Female we’re featuring for the month of November is Lianne J. Armstrong, Partner and Senior Construction and Commercial Litigator at Lerners LLP.
Lianne is a senior construction and commercial litigator who helps businesses resolve complex disputes involving contracts, projects, facilities and operational risk. With deep manufacturing and construction industry experience, she provides practical, strategic advice focused on protecting business interests, minimizing disruption and reaching cost-effective resolutions.
To learn more about Lianne’s journey as a Fearless Female, watch the interview below (or read the written format).
Please Introduce Yourself
My name is Leanne Armstrong. I am a partner at the law firm of Lerners, and I am a construction lawyer. As I said, I work at Lerners. We have four offices. We have Kitchener, London, Toronto, and Strathroy. It has been around since 1929, and was started by Lerner’s, and we have now grown obviously significantly since that time, and we do, we’re pretty much full service, and as I say, I head up the construction law department.
What inspired you to choose this career path?
Following the career path, I really think it was, my father probably likely saying, oh, you argue a lot. You really should be a lawyer, but that was just kind of, you know, getting me thinking about it, but then it really was an area that you could look to helping other people, solving their problems, and so that it really was a focus, and then construction, I just really like the industry. I like the people that operate within the industry. I find that they are different in the sense of, although it is litigation, it’s not very, it’s not as adversarial as other areas of the law, because the goal is to keep a construction project moving, and that means working together somewhat cooperatively within an adversarial process.
Tell us more about your professional and educational background
I went to Queens, we’re actually coming up next weekend on our 30-year reunion, so I’ve always done commercial litigations, commercial litigation, companies resolving disputes or litigating disputes, but probably about 15 years ago, I began doing it almost exclusively doing construction law, and this is a path that I’ve really enjoyed, and I’m going down, and I definitely wouldn’t change it. I love the construction law.
Largest milestone right now is that, or my favourite, is that I am currently the chair of the London and District Construction Association. I had decided some time ago that I wanted to focus on the industry as a whole, and how can we make the actual construction industry, whether it’s looking at political issues or looking at local issues, so I started on the association quite some years ago, and this is my year that I am chair.
If you could go back in time, is there anything you would have done differently?
I think it’s as a woman, I think we look at it from being a woman, a woman that’s working in the construction industry, it is going into male-dominated spaces. I think when I first started, I really saw it being, well, these are the men’s events, and these are the women’s events, and saying, well, no, let’s change that, and so just showing up and not worrying about, maybe you and the couple of women you bring are the only women there, and that’s okay, and since that time that I started showing up, I definitely think that other women look around and say, oh, it’s okay too, these aren’t male events, or female’s events, that we are welcome at all of them, and just kind of entering that space, which might not be comfortable at first.
I think as women, we’re not always as confident as we should be, and if I did it again, I definitely would just lean into that, and not be second-guessing, and going with more with instinct and self-confidence, and say, I know my stuff, I’m just going to not second-guess, and just a confident piece that I see, that I know that I struggle with, but I see much more because I see other young women struggling with it.
I also am an adjunct professor at Western, I’m doing that probably five, six, seven years. I teach civil litigation, and I still see it with the younger law students as well, and I just wish I could tell all of them, have confidence, and just go out there, and challenge yourself, and just follow whatever you set out to do.
Well, the one thing I have done that I think is differently than as other lawyers, is I’ve really, as I say, really looked at the industry. So, if I’m going to go to a conference, it’s not necessarily going to be a legal conference, I want to go and find out about the construction industry, what are people doing, what are people being challenged by, and I really think that’s been, that’s helped, not just helped me in my career, but it made me love my career, because now I have friends, I, you know, within the industry, where I have barbecues, or I go to their weddings, or birthday parties, and it’s just makes, you know, it’s wonderful having your clients also be your friends as well.
How do you define success?
Success is, I think, really enjoying your job, and just focusing on doing the best job you can, being the best at whatever it is, it can be anything. For me, it’s, I want, you know, I want to be a construction lawyer. At one point, I was just a litigator, I was resolving disputes, and then I thought, you know what, I feel like my clients, I have a unique perspective in that I could also do the drafting of contracts at the very beginning, and so I set out, and I say, okay, I’m going to do that. I take all the courses, I, you know, I learn that area of the trade, and it’s just been enjoyable, just kind of focusing on what are your clients’ needs, and, you know, pursuing that.
The main thing is being client-centered. I think that is, and I think that is learners as a whole, I mean, we really set out, all of us set out to do, be the best in whatever area we practice in, and be very client-centered, so every client knows that their problem is very unique, is I put special care into how do we resolve this for you, and also, for me at least, I always tell my clients, you know, this is no longer your problem, this is my problem, you just let it go, and they can trust that I’m going to, you know, really take care in making sure that things are done as smoothly as possible, so just being client-focused, I think, is important.
What are some of the advantages of establishing your business in Waterloo Region?
I think the advantages are, is that it’s a smaller community, you’re going to be running into people all the time, and building relationships. I think that, like I did very beginning of my career, I did practice in Toronto, and it’s very different. You’re not able to build relationships like you are here, and especially within the construction industry. I would say, when you look at litigation, often it’s because people are entering into agreements with parties that they don’t know well, they haven’t worked with before, and from the other side, the other contracting party might not be as concerned about resolving all disputes, because, well, we might not work with them again, but when you work in a region like Waterloo, whether it’s in construction or within law, you have these relationships that you want to have throughout your career, so you really put focus into building them.
What advice would you give to other aspiring women entrepreneurs and professionals?
I have been doing this for a long time, and I have seen women come and go, fantastic lawyers who had difficulty, whether it’s fitting in or balancing work and home life. My goal is to pave a path for other women behind me. I do have two children, my children are now university aged, and I want people to say, look at me, and say, look at, she did it, I can do it as well, and I can enjoy doing it. I just think that it is a difficult career, but I want to show women that it is definitely doable and enjoyable at the same time.
I would say the most important thing is find a mentor. Women are always wanting to help other women, and they have to recognize that. Just reach out, look at somebody who has a career like you want, reach out and say, hey, can we grab a coffee, get together with that person. I have had women that do that, and I continue throughout the path of their career, always, they know, they can call me at any time, ask for any advice, if they’re having any issues, I’m going to be there, and I know that other women are the same way. Just don’t be shy about it, look for a mentor.
I think it’s just a different time in my career. My children are now off, both of them are in university, so I am looking to put more time into more charitable work, and looking at how I can give back more. It’s very, you go through a time when you do, before your children, you’re so involved in everything, and then when your children are younger, you feel you’re being pulled in so many different directions that you really do focus on the family and the career. But now, I’m entering a whole new phase, so I’m excited about it, and seeing where it takes me.
Where can listeners learn more about you and contact you directly?
Check out our website, it’s lerners.ca, and if anyone just ever wants to reach out to me and chat about things, please do. I’m always looking to meet other women, and find out what they’re up to, and how they’re succeeding in whatever careers they’re having, so I welcome to have a chat with anybody.
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